DMB rains on Clinton's parade

What's the best way to lure college students away from a former president's talk? Three words: Dave Matthews Band.

That's what happened in Bloomington, Indiana, when former President Bill Clinton came to the campus of Indiana University to drum up support for the presidential campaign of his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). Just as the two-term Oval Officer was preparing to take the stage in IU's Assembly Hall, word began to spread that free tickets to Sunday's DMB concert on campus were being given away across town at that very moment. Students frantically flocked away from the former Commander-in-Chief to get their mitts on the tickets at... the Bloomington campaign headquarters for rival candidate Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL).

"I was leaning toward Obama, but this sealed the deal for sure," said Indiana student Jason Schectman, who waited three hours for his DMB tix, according to the Indianapolis Star.

Matthews endorsed Obama's candidacy in a letter on the band's website on the eve of the Virginia primary in February. "I believe that corporate greed and its involvement in policymaking, along with political cronyism, have made it nearly impossible for the people to govern," Matthews wrote. "It is time for a change, and that is why I support Barack Obama for President."

President Clinton still managed to attract 6,000 people to his speech, clearly not rock fans.



Rock on!

¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??I was leaning toward Obama, but this sealed the deal for sure,¢Ã¢â??¬ said Indiana student Jason Schectman, who waited three hours for his DMB tix, according to the Indianapolis Star.

Exactly my point .....the kids are voting for a President of America like it was President of their Frat or Sorority.......that's how we got Bush instead of Gore....Do these kids still not know the difference? They are lucky that our good lord watches over fools. If the DNC was foolish enough to nominate Obama when Hillary will clearly have the lead in popular votes by May then tyhese kids deserve what they will get...McCain and he will appoint 2 new Supreme Court Justices and you young fools will lose abortion rights and may even get drafted into the next war but it will be better than what would happen if fools were not protected from themselves and Obama won. I see Obama wants to give students who do community service $4000/year. Kids wake up because for the same amount of hours at $12/hr you would make more money elswhere and a waitress will make more than double that amount for the same hours. You are being uded. VOTE Hillary

You just made a great case for NOT supporting Clinton. That $4000 is to promote people doing community service - of course people can make more working elsewhere. Do you want a president who encourages young people to get a good job on Wall Street, or one who encourages young people to contribute some of their time and energy to making the country and the world a better place? Of course, that's not something the Clintons are often accused of.

But that's not the damn point! The point is another 4 or 8 years of the Bush/Clinton monarchy is the last thing this country needs. I'm not a kid - I'm almost 50, and I've lived through the Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush administrations and I've seen our country slide a little further into despair and economic chaos with each passing year. More of the same just won't cut it for me. Let's not forget that BOTH Clintons were right there by Bush's side when he started his Iraq adventure - they had ZERO reservations, and were two of the biggest cheerleaders for that war.

I;m not a kid. This isn't a frat party decision for me. This is a leadership question, and an inspirational one. Clinton provides neither. She's a self-described policy wonk, and as much of a Washington insider as McCain. Everything she says is scripted - extemporaneously she says some really goofy stuff, doesn't she? She doesn't have the ability to lift anybody, to inspire people to greatness. Neither does McCain. Obama MIGHT.

Clinton's entire campaign has been one of "entitlement." She just thinks it's her turn to be president. That's probably why she didn't bother to campaign in the "red" states or caucus states that are going to end up costing her the nomination. Seems like extremely poor planning to me - why in the name of God would we hand the keys to the Pentagon to somebody who can't even run a primary campaign? Had she had a 50-state strategy (which Obama has), she would have won months ago - no question about that. But her negligence and arrogance allowed a 1st term Senator from Illinois get traction and she gave America time to get to know him, and to like him, and to see an enormous personal contrast. Smooth beats shrill every single time.

You can't rewrite history. Hillary tries, though. While the media and her camp continue to downplay her Bosnia arrival story as "misremembering" or just a simple mistake, the fact of the matter is she and Chelsea never - not once - landed amid sniper fire. Therefore there was nothing to misremember. She lied her ass off to try to come across as courageous, and she got caught. Nothing to explain, no equivocation allowed, and it's not a laughing matter. A candidate for president just lied in an effort to make her look more courageous than she is, to boost her commander-in-chief creds, and she got caught.

The ONLY way she could possibly have more popular votes than Barack Obama is if Florida and Michigan are counted as they currently stand (and even then only because Obama's name wasn't on the Michigan ballot). Of course, she and her minions neglect to recall that she signed off on the primary plan, and agreed to the sanctions that are being imposed. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game, and both of those states understood what would happen if they went out of turn. The irony is if they had waited their turn, they would have been EXTREMELY important in this campaign! They could have been "king-making" primaries. They planned poorly, as did Clinton. That's why this thing will likely be over after North Carolina.

The question is, what does Clinton do after she loses?

Hey Music Lover who claims to be not a kid, Read and hopefully learn. College students and their parents know that earning as much money as possible while going to college prevents long term loans. Obama is not saying $4000 for 10 hours dear and every dollar counts if you want a good education.

Read OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES (Updated to reflect new dishonesties)

OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES (no less than 66 lies as of March 31 2008)

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in

1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated

youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most

corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila

Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate

election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily

Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention,

Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?Å?Baraka' (from

which Barack came) means ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?Å?blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic

and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where

you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your

wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as

Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check

your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak

the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you

were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language.

What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise)

and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on

the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite

content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention

of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find

the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet

to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did,


15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?Å?08 - LIAR, here you are, despite

saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and

you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU,

but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and

democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON


20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write

it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start

to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own

party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your

Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills

you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special

interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a

large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention

anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies

were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted

against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters

claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR

bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to

assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government

issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on

terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of


30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead

terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you

and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12

times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the

vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small

windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of

which you didn't write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening

to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate

Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and


41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign

worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace

issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other

people's words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in

the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote

against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich,

who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from

your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves

us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both

companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no

record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you

don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your

wife's words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in

relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received

nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to


51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year,

made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.

52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife's pay raise

was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit

Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks

VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for

17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he

was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property

and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then

Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you can't afford, saving you


54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu

($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught

lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it's $250k) their

money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.

55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so

extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the

US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.

56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to

repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large

sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and

revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so

terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is

disagreement, Senator Obama.

57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only

connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC

supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who

ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have

helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions

of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free

to be taken over by special interests such as him.

58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright's, that have been in videos all

day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said

¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.¢Ã¢â??¬

59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your

own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked

into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you

looked into Clinton's and McCain's more than a year before!

60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks

appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise

money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America.

61.) My wife didn't mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase -

LIAR. Again, MicHELLe's comments perfectly sync with Wright's, Meeks', and

Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.

62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long

time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the

last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at

Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for

Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a

pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren't there on THAT Sunday either? How

lucky for you.

63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. [03/30/2008]

You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had

your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from

the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395

from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from

Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600

from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but

certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure

that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a

dream, eh?

64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the

death penalty and abortion - LIAR - [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama ¢Ã¢â??¬”

the day after sitting for the interview ¢Ã¢â??¬” filed an amended version of the

questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama's own handwritten notes added

to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey

65) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first

to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm

over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama's pastor, the Rev.

Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic

primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary

Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to

label Obama the ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??black¢Ã¢â??¬ candidate. Read more here

66) I did not take money from oil companies: - LIAR - [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No

candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians.

Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect

voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama

doesn't take money from PACs. He also doesn't take money from lobbyists.

But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies

and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama's

presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry

employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan

Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from

industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the

likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the

center's totals.

Two of Obama's fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief

executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the

president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co.

I copy/pasted for you. Now all you have to do is read and learn.

Musiclover: Math was not your strong suit either huh?

FACT: Popular vote lead for Obama now is about 700,000 not including FL and MI. Obama has misled the Obamamites into believing that his name was not on the MI ballot.....he neglects to tell you that his name was on the MI ballot untill he removed his name because he knew he would lose and needed to be able to tell the fools that it wasn't fair because his name wasn't there. He did not remove his name from FL ballot because he thought with his 10 days of running campaign ads in FL that he would do better. By the way running those campaign ads in FL was a violation of his agreement not to campaign in FL but Obamamites don't seem to care if he lies as long as he gets them DMB tickets. Wake up Are you 10?

FACT: PA has over 4 million registered democrats. A large turn out is expected but if only 75% vote and Hillary wins 60% to Obama 40% (I do not think he will even get that much) then 1,800,000 votes will be added to Hillary's count while 1,200,000 will be added to Obama's popular vote count. That pretty much erases the Obama lead in popular votes before counting FL and MI. There are 9 more primaries after PA of which Obama will be lucky to win one and that will be NC if and only if the large numbers of blacks voting on skin color only get to the polls.

Both candidates knew or should have known the rules when agreeing not to campaign in FL and MI. It was not Hillary's job to point out to Obama that oh by the way after you agree not to campaign in these states the credentials committee will still seat their deligates rather than piss off 2 states for the general election. And Obama did know that and that is why he removed his name from the MI ballot.....just for another excuse.

Stop buying Obama BS and hope that your votes for him in this primary are topped by smarter voters yet to vote in these last 10 primaries. And call or write your elected officials to insist that they vote Hillary and save your A$$.....or we get McCain. I voted democrat my entire life but if Obama is nominated I will not just vote for McCain, I will campaign for him and switch parties forever....Hillary 08

MUSICLOVER: If Clinton loses and I really hope the DNC is not that dumb, but if she loses, she can just sit back and wait to run again in 2012 because certainly even the young voters of today will have gained knowledge and experience by then and vote her in. I tend to doubt that you are a 50 year old woman but if you are please check with your husband before casting a vote again as you appear to have bought hook line and sinker every fable the Obama camp has told.

Since when is it "dumb" for the DNC to actually give primary voters a voice in picking the nominee by (shudder!)giving it to the person WHO WON THE MOST DELEGATES, POPULAR VOTE, AND MOST STATES? And please dont start in about the popular vote in Florida and Michigan. Hillary, along with all of the other candidates, agreed on the primary rules beforehand, and typically, is now changing her tune when it benefits her. Anyone who thinks that Michigan, a state that only had ONE candidate on the ballot, should be counted, probably also thinks that the Yankees really won the 98 ALCS when Jeffrey Mayer interfered with a fly ball. Joe Stalin used to have such elections, and he won everyone of them. Hillary's supporters keep coming up with tortured formulas that explain how she really is winning.

1. She has won more "delegates". Wrong...this is a primary, not the general election. And any democrat will win NY and CA, so that's comparing apples to oranges.

2. She has won the "big states". Again, apples to oranges: Just because team A beats team B, and B beats C, it doesnt logically stand to reason that A beats C. Each new match-up creates different dynamics: If you average all of the last months polls: Barack and Hillary, overall, run equally well against McCain.

3. She is more experienced. Yes, but......being first lady is not even remotely like being president. She didnt have security clearance, she didnt negotiate a single treaty, SHE HAS NEVER COMMANDED A SINGLE SOLDIER, she has consistently exaggerated and outright LIED about her experience, and finally: 35 YEARS AGO, SHE WAS 25 YEARS OLD, FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD.

4. Obama is unelectable. If this is true, WHY IS HE BEATING HER??

Jodi, Jodi, Jodi, your list of "lies" are merely sound bites and half-truths taken out of context. Good try! Blessings on you anyway. I understand.

Wayne: Go back and read the posting by Jodi as I don't have time to explain how far off you are. Obama knew FL & MI would count in the end but it really won't matter as Hillary will have the popular vote even not counting FL&MI.

Obama will not win CA or MA over McCain. You need to remember 2 things: 1)McCain is a very liberal republican and has worked with the democrats on many issues, even with Kennedy. While Obama claims to be a uniter but has not done anything since being elected to the US Senate other than run for President. 2)Obama had Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Caroline Kennedy, Oprah and Mrs. Terminator all stumping for Obama in CA and still he lost to Hilary and that was before the Rev. Wright stuff came to TV land. (By the way I live in MA and have not heard anything more about Obama from Kennedy, Kerry or Oprah since.) The same was true for MA and Kennedy and Kerry should be pretty red in the face since Hillary won MA before the Rev. Wright stuff by double digits. Ma will vote Republican when required as they have elected Romney for Gov. in the past.

Hillary like most everyone with a college education began work while in law school at age 25.

Obama has won red state which are easily won by McCain in the general election. Obama has won mostly caucuses which do not happen in the general election. Look at Texas, Hillary won the voting where people go behind a curtain to vote and Obama won the caucus....Again there are no caucuses in the general election.

If we were talking about Laura Bush or Nancy Reagan then you could rightly say they were just First Lady and knew nothing but Hillary was a working lawyer and learns by just being there but add to that the attempt to install universal health care which she will now get done. No one could have completed the health care back then and most did not even see it as ever to be needed . Just shows how far ahead of the curve she was and is. Obama would get no where on his half baked heath care plan of which most is copied from Hillary except the part about not insuring everyone. He does not get it because he does not want to get is not really his plan. Vote Hillary 08

Jodi Thank you Thank you Thank you....You are so right Obama did know FL and MI would count or there would have been no reason to take his name off MI Ballot but not off the FL ballot. The sweet talker will not make it.

Wayne: Obama can not get the hispanic vote in CA but McCain can. I think Jodi is right and I certainly hope Jodi is right or I too will vote McCain. Hillary 2008

buonoro: A lie is a lie is a lie sound bite ready or not. And the Obama lies are certainly much worse than Hillary's embelished Bosnia trip.

Dan - are you kidding? Did you seriously just tell that woman to go ask her husband before casting her vote? I'm surprised you're not a republican with that ridiculous attitude towards women. As an IU grad student, I can tell you that we, the 'young voters,' would never vote in Hillary Clinton. Hillary only fools some of the other older voters like yourself, and it will be your fault when things go wrong if she wins.

Hoosier: Luckily the young voters who are more interested in getting DMB tickets than learning about Obama will be saved by the rest of us in November. If young people were unlucky enough to get Obama nominated over Hillary then McCAin will be your new President and you will likely lose the right to abortion when he replaces 2 Supreme Court justices and you might even get to fight a war in Iran but even that would be better than electing Obama ....and then maybe you youngsters will learn how to vote correctly in the next election.

Hillary 2008

Hoosier: Please do some more homework because it is Obama that has been fooling people and the higher IQ group has begun to figure that out. Obama is not what you think he is unless you are a black person attending a church like Obama's with a Rev. teaching white hatred. My Mother raised my brother and I to have no ill feelings toward anyone based on color or gender but that is not what Rev. Wright teaches Obama's 2 young girls. And there was one time when I was about 6 years old and I remember my Mother picked me up and walked out of church because a Priest said women should stay home and leave the jobs to the Mome been telling college students about that day because as she turned around we saw at least a dozen more parents had also followed us out of church with their kids. My point is she took action and that type of talk did not happen again at our church. Obama allowed and encouraged that hate speach for 20 years while donating $22K last year to Wright for his new home.

* silly of me, I forgot for a minute what a waste of time it is to argue with angry Clinton supporters! I guess i should just go back to being a young, low-IQ grad student (oxymoron anyone?) fighting in a war while my abortion rights are taken away during a hatred-filled speech at a church that has a black preacher. Apparently that makes me black too, because no white people attend churches like Obama's according to Sheila. Well it seems I am really quite busy so I'll leave everyone else to bicker on this silly website that will never, ever make a difference in the election. are as bad as Hillary. What rubbish you project. You abviously get your "FACTS" from forwarded emails. You obviously haven't research the TRUE facts. You are pathetic. No wonder you don't support Obama....most intelligence-deficient people don't.

As for me Dave Matthews Band is a good one, also agree with "jodi"
and his opinion about this subject!

I don't believe it's correct that the Dave Matthews Band is playing at Indiana University. It's Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds. I'm just sayin'.

No one smells any Dumped Bowel Movement in this entire discussion?

Go Nader. Go Obama. Go Hilary. Go McCain. Go Osama. Go Bush. Does it matter? Why do bags of biochemical processes try to argue over such pettiness?

It is just Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds and the tickets are completely gone.

Jodi: Do some fact-checking. I went to the website you linked to. Its lead story claims that the KKK supports Obama - supposedly "authenticated" by the site admin. This is from a UK paper that has as other "News Items" things like "Paris Hilton to have STD named after her."

The KKK's own website says they do not endorse Obama, as a quick Google search of "Ku Klux Klan Obama" will show. I submitted the page (and your laundry list) to

Don't believe everything you read, and from now on, remember that this is supposed to be about the music, not the politics. Rant elsewhere.

¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??I believe that corporate greed and its involvement in policymaking, along with political cronyism, have made it nearly impossible for the people to govern,¢Ã¢â??¬ Matthews wrote.

I like DMB as much as the next guy, but what's up with that statement? I guess by "corporate greed" he means Exxon and Halliburton, but certainly not the benevolent entities that promote his tours, market his CDs, protect his copyrights, etc. Why they're just in it for the music, man!

As for political cronyism, I guess they don't know anything about that on the South Side of Chicago from whence Obama sprang to national attention.

Wow - come out strong against Hillary and the personal attacks just spring forth like talking points! Kind of like what happens when you come out strong against...a Bush. That's such a tired tactic - to challenge the message, attack the messenger in every way possible.

Who was it that said the "politics of personal destruction need to stop?" Let's see...oh yeah - it was Bill Clinton, while he was busy being impeached for lying under oath about having sex with an intern in the White House. Two criminal acts he did commit, which his ever-loyal wife loudly proclaimed was all part of a "vast right wing conspiracy."

And Dan, I suppose you just assume that anybody stupid enough to support Obama and ignore the amazing grace of Hillary Clinton must be a dumb broad not intelligent enough to think for herself.

Well, for one thing I don't have a husband. I am a husband. And for another, I used to support Clinton until after seeing her campaign come apart at the seams and seeing her react like a spoiled child wailing at anything and anybody to try to get her way. It sickened me and showed me that she has neither then demeanor, the management skills, nor the professionalism needed to do the job. Her campaign is always on the brink of running out of money, the management structure is always in flux, the message seems to change daily, and her personal attacks on her Democratic opponent are becoming more shrill and delusional by the day. God knows we don't need that crap in the White House. Certainly not again.

Yes, Obama removed his name from the Michigan ballot. So did Richardson, Biden, and Edwards. Kucinich unsuccessfully sought to have his name removed, while Clinton and Dodd kept their names on the ballot. And even though all candidates agreed to basically ignore Florida and Michigan, Clinton claimed wins in both states and she flew to Fort Lauderdale on the night of the Florida election to thank supporters for what she called a "tremendous victory." WTF? Look it up, Jodi.

The corporate greed assigned to Exxon, Halliburton, and many others is astonishing. What do concert tours, compact discs, and copyright protection have to do with that? DMB, collectively and separately, have been incredibly generous with their wealth, time, and talents, donating millions to worthy causes (maybe not causes you fine worthy, but that's irrelevant - the point is they are far from the greedy ingrates you imply them to be). Their ticket prices, which could be exorbitant, are quite low in comparison to other acts of their stature. Without a doubt there are plenty of greedy, uncaring, hypocritical celebrities out there - but none of the members of the Dave Mathews Band fall into that category.

Each person is entitled to his or her own opinion, but not to his or her own set of facts.


Can't you check your facts? It was the 1996 ALCS. Jeez...

I heard the "kids" had to duck sniper fire to get tickets!

Snipers for tickets? Now that's funny.

Did you hear about the girl and her baby that died because she didn't have health insurance and no one would help them?

Hillary referenced it in several speeches to show her "caring side". It's now known to be another Hillary distortion of the truth. But we all know Hillary Clinton would never "lie" to her supporters right? She'll just repeatedly "misspeak".

I read 5 of the "facts" posted by Jodi and stopped because 2 of them were so incredibly stupid I couldn't take it.

"3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had"

Freedom and corruption have nothing to do with each other. The Kenyans won their independence from Britain in 63 and the ensuing government was indeed corrupt. The fact that the govt was corrupt has nothing to do with gaining their freedom.

"4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades."

The Presidential election in December was incredible flawed and rigged, according to everybody. I challenge you to find ONE legit person (not including Pres. Kibaki) who believe that the election was legitimate. JUST ONE!!! and Raila did not incite violence, he claimed that he won and the outraged and frustrated voters unfortunatly boiled over. Raila did not instigate the violence.

Like I said I only read a couple of these "facts" but I assume the rest were similarly flawed and blatent lies. Don't post something you just found online, you obviously don't have any idea what you are talking about and it just makes you look stupid.

As a student, IU student to be exact, I think it is horrible that students would even think about casting their votes because soemone gave them a free ticket! WTF! I think it is horrible that a potential leader would target students like that. That's just slimy! And here are these stupid students falling for it. It really just blows my mind. The one kid who said it sealed the deal for him. Come on... Obama isn't going to be paying for his frat to have a concert for the little 5! Once the deal is sealed they won't ever have a free concert...except maybe if they are lucky to get a visit from some famous rock group while there butt is chillin' in Iraq.

Tina - do you really think that anybody believes that an Obama presidency means free concert tickets for everybody?

I daresay that the free tickets didn't generate nearly the support for Obama that appearing to have a sense of humor on Saturday Night Live generated for Clinton. So which show of support is more shallow? Do you also think it's shallow for a potential leader to cancel a couple of campaign appearances to show up on Saturday Night Live to ready jokes written for her by union writers? Is that not slimy? And does it really matter?

Your comment seems to imply that you think an Obama presidency means more war in Iraq, and that a Clinton presidency means a quick end. Interesting, since Clinton supported the war (as did her husband) until it became politically inconvenient for her to do so.

I'd just like to thank the Hook for misquoting me, using only select snipets of a my answers to serve the "reporter's" agenda, fabricating a biased story, and basically misleading the public. Why did you bother to ask questions? You made up most of it anyway. NEVER EVER talk to Hook "reporters", they'll misrepresent you. LOW BROW REPORTING AT BEST.
Thanks again!


Hi dave,

I don't recall interviewing a "dave" for this story. If this by some chance happens to be the esteemed Mr. Matthews posting, I quoted "dave's" letter accurately in this story. If you'd like to read the letter in full, you can see for yourself at:

-Lindsay Barnes


I know it isn't yours, but nice website that you referenced there - funny that it is called audacity of hypocrisy, since when I posted something that was against Hillary and pointed out that the language is so skewed that a 3rd grader could see through it, my post was removed and I have been blocked from posting. What a joke. If you are going to have a debate, then have it.

Many of you took this way too far. That IU student probably made that comment as a joke anyway.

Perhaps it is a little underhanded of Mr. Obama to hand out DMB tix during a Clinton rally. But these politics are cutthroat!

Clinton has tried plenty of shady methods in her attempts to bury Obama. Appearing on SNL, I agree, was shallow. She talks over Obama in debates. She and her husband attack his victories by using the race card.

I haven't heard of Obama being anywhere near as bitter as Clinton. He'll throw some punches back, but Mrs. Clinton drew first blood and then some for sure.