Owner pans tonight's proposed bus idling ban
This publicly owned bus enjoyed a lengthy idle last March while waiting for hockey players.FILE PHOTO BY HAWES SPENCER
It's billed as a move for human health and the environment, that City Council may take advantage of a new state law that enables it to ban bus idling. However, one transportation company owner brands the proposed ordinance, which could hit bus operators with $50 fines for idling over 15 minutes, as potentially inequitable because it provides no escape clauses for private buses.
"It's tough enough to compete," says Dan Goff, who owns Old Dominion Charters, "but when they pass laws that exempt their own buses, that's not fair."
Goff, who became aware of the proposed ordinance via a call from a reporter, says that many citizens may not realize that the reason for the idling is usually climate-control–- that heating and cooling a bus takes a long time if the engine gets turned off.
"Would you want to get on a cold bus on a hot day or on a hot bus on a cold day?" asks Goff, who posted a lengthy critique of the enabling legislation
earlier this year in the public comment portion of a news site.
The proposed ordinance has no fine print, but the corresponding treatment for public buses–- i.e. the City's new "Idling Reduction Policy," which was enacted last September–- does.
Such policy says that school buses, for instance, will have no set limits, when "warmth of the bus is an issue," other than keeping idling to a "minimum."
Under threat of "disciplinary action," the policy allows public buses to idle for 15 minutes only on under-32-degree days or under other specific circumstances.
"I think their policy is well thought-out," says Goff. "The ordinance should reflect common sense instead of just having an outright ban."




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I've been a school bus driver for several years & my thoughts apply to all bus in general. Climate control is just as important to paying passengers as it is to parents who's kids ride the bus. Nobody wants to get on a freezing or boiling bus. Most people do not realize the volume of air inside of a bus and just how long it takes to stabilize the temperature. It may take the people making these rules 5-10 minutes to heat up their car and they think the same time frame applies to large vehicles. It may be 30 minutes into my bus route before (ie having that engine working) before it heats up. Another very important consideration is dealing with fogged up windows on damp/rainy days. If I don't stay ahead of the fogging before passengers start boarding, it is difficult to keep the windows clear for the safe operation of such a large vehicle. The people making these rules should talk to experienced drivers to get some insight into these matters before they blindly proceed.
fix the potholes
get the juvenile delinqents off the street
stop wasting money even talking about this crap
What a waste of time and effort. Must we submit ourselves to more of this kind of abuse by our elected officals. How about making our streets more safer, or how about getting the neighborhoods cleaned up. Why abuse someone who is trying to make a living.
0.3 to 0.4 gallons per hour are consumed idling a 12 liter diesel engine with A/C compressor engaged.
This amount of fuel consumption is very insignificant. These vehicles also have air brakes. So stopping the engine followed by running it to recover heat or air conditioning and air brake pressure is a bad idea.
Let them idle, its the green thing to do.